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  • Kingdom Chat #43: Six Things A Christian Should Not Suffer

    Posted by Philip on October 28, 2021 at 3:59 am

    Job was like many Christians who think that sickness, disease, calamity, and other evils come from God, and Satan has nothing to do with them. Some even believe that these are the heritage of believers, and those who go through them are in the perfect will of God. As Christians, we experience tests of faith, persecutions, injustices, and trials of life, but we are not required to suffer sickness, disease, or poverty to be saved and in the will of God. The tests Joseph went through in Egypt (Genesis 39-41), the sufferings that Stephen suffered by the hand of the Jews (Acts 7), and the experiences of Paul in 2 Corinthians 11 were not the same kind as sickness, disease, and the effects of sin and rebellion which Christ died for to free us from. Nevertheless, these also were caused by Satan and evil men – not by God. He was not responsible for what caused Joseph, Stephen, and Paul to suffer – God helped them go through the things heaped upon them by Satan and his agents.

    God can teach us lessons from any trial, but He does not necessarily send us trials to teach us lessons. A father could use his son’s experiences, should he break the law and suffer penalties in jail, as an occasion to teach certain lessons for the betterment of the son’s future. Still, it would be a very ungodly father who would lead him into such trouble for the particular purpose of teaching those lessons he could teach otherwise. Thus it is with us – we do not need to experience sickness, disease, poverty, and accidents to learn what we should know from God. We have examples in the Word to go by – Job, Asa, Hezekiah, David, and many others. One can best glorify God by learning through these and becoming an example himself- one experiencing God’s blessings by being kept from such troubles and sufferings through obedience. Enough sinners and unbelievers are giving us examples without us going through needless sufferings. However, there are some kinds of woes Christians may be called upon to endure for the sake of theme gospel at the hand of Satan.

    As followers of Christ, we can lead a victorious life. From financial prosperity, obtaining spiritual power from God to conquering bad habits, and living righteously.

    Here are six things Christians should not suffer:

    1. With Sin which Christ suffered to cleanse us from completely. (Matthew 1:21; 26:28; 2 Cor. 5:17-21; Rom. 1:21-32; 1 Peter 4:15; 1 Jn 1:7-9; 1 Cor. 6:9-11)

    2. Sickness which Christ died to take away from men ( Isa.53; Mt. 8:16-17; Jn. 10:10; Acts 10:38; James 5:14-16; 1 Peter 2:24). Even provisions have been made to keep the Christian immune from sickness (Ps. 34:9-10; 91:1-12) and give him power to heal others (Mt. 17:20; 21:22; Mk.9:23; 11:22-24; 16:15-20; Luke 24:49).

    3. Failure in business and poverty (Ps. 1:3-4; 23:1-6; 34:9-10; 37:1-8, 84:11)

    4. Bad habits (Rom. 6:14-23; 8:1-13; 1 Cor. 9:9-11; 2 Cor. 5:17-21; Gal. 5:16-26; Col. 3:5-10; Titus 2:11-13)

    5. Lack of spiritual power (Mt. 17:20; Mk. 9:23; 16:15-20; Luke 24:49; Acts 1:4-8; 2:38-39; 1 Cor. 12)

    6. Failure in Prayer (Mt. 17:20; 21:22; Mk.9:23; 11:22-24; John 14:12-15; 15:7,16, Hebrews 11:6; Jas. 1:5-8)

    It is not the will of God for us to suffer any of the things named above. In the Word of God, provision has been made through the exceeding great and precious promises to give us all things which pertain to life and godliness (2 Cor. 1:20; 2 Pet. 1:3-4). Read through these Bible verses and share your findings from these scriptures. You can also post a 3-5mins video if you wish to respond by video.

    Do you believe that a Christian should live free of these things mentioned here? How can Christians ensure that they do not suffer these things mentioned? What does the Bible mean by “All things that pattern to life” in 2 Peter 1:3?

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    Maryann replied 2 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Willy Y. Jefferson

    Administrator
    October 29, 2021 at 5:18 am

    Thank you, Pastor, for bringing this up. I am going to read and study the above provided scriptures, but I am really interested in knowing what to do to not suffer from all these six things. You mentioned the difference between “We should not” and “we will not” – 🤔 I am trying to understand more about this statement.

  • Jayna

    Member
    October 30, 2021 at 7:56 pm

    @phil4krist THIS RIGHT HERE!!

    I dont know how I missed responding to this earlier, but I’m glad I’m getting into this now!

    I love the reference of God being a GOOD father, not an ungodly father leading us into trials to teach us lessons! He loves us and teaches us because he LOVES us (Hebrews 12:6).

    I love that we’re talking about this and I look forward to reading the other responses.

    I used to think in my mind that Job suffered because God “allowed” it to be so (not necessarily that they “came” from God) but that God permitted it. I use to wrestle with these thoughts and was fearful of what God might “allow” in my life (similar to Job) but I am getting the revelation that in these moments of FEAR, that I’m not walking in FAITH. And Romans 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. God’s word says ROMANS 8:37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.

    @phil4krist Thank you for sharing these other bible scriptures and references pertaining to six things Christians should not suffer. I am reading through each scripture to convert the word into my faith and then standing firm on that!

    These are my DECLARATIONS!!

    1. We are completely FREE/REDEEMED/MADE-NEW from Sin which Christ suffered to cleanse us from completely.

    Matthew 1:21

    Matthew 26:28

    2 Corinthains 5:17-21

    Romans 1:21-32

    1 Peter 4:15

    1 Jn 1:7-9

    1 Cor. 6:9-11

    2. We have divine physical/mental/emotional/spiritual HEALTH & HEALING because Christ died to take away SICKNESS from all men

    Isaiah 53

    Matthew 8:16-17

    John 10:10

    Acts 10:38

    James 5:14-16

    1 Peter 2:24

    *We receive the provisions that have been made to keep the Christian immune from sickness

    Psalm 34:9-10

    Psalm 91:1-12

    **And Thank you Holy Spirit for the power to heal others

    Matthew 17:20

    Matthew 21:22

    Mark 9:23

    <b style=””>Mark 11:22-24

    Mark 16:15-20

    Luke 24:49

    3. We have SUCCESS & WEALTH, not failure in business and poverty

    Psalm1:3-4

    Psalm 23:1-6

    Psalm 34:9-10

    Psalm 37:1-8

    Psalm 84:11

    4. We have GOOD HABITS, not bad habits

    Romans 6:14-23

    Romans 8:1-13

    1 Corinthians 9:9-11

    2 Corinthians. 5:17-21

    Galatians 5:16-26;

    Colossians 3:5-10;

    Titus 2:11-13

    5. We are FULL OF POWER and we have no Lack of spiritual power

    Matthew 17:20

    Mark 9:23

    Mark 16:15-20

    Luke 24:49

    Acts 1:4-8

    Acts 2:38-39

    1 Corinthians 12

    And 6. We have NO FAILURE in Prayer!!!

    Matthew 17:20

    Matthew 21:22

    Mark 9:23

    Mark 11:22-24

    John 14:12-15

    John 15:7,16

    Hebrews 11:6

    James 1:5-8


    THANK YOU JESUS that It is not the will of God for us to suffer any of the things named above.

    We confess, believe, and receive the Word of God, and every provision that has been made through the exceeding great and precious promises. THANK YOU, GOD, for giving us all things which pertain to life and godliness (2 Cor. 1:20; 2 Pet. 1:3-4).


    2 Peter 1:2-11

    2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the [c]corruption that is in the world through lust.

    Fruitful Growth in the Faith
    5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control [d]perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither [e]barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

    10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    • Philip

      Administrator
      October 30, 2021 at 8:21 pm

      @jayna your confessions are powerful 💥. Yes, when we think that God just throws things at us just for the fun of it, we start to live in fear but His word reveals His will for us. And they are good and perfect. 2 Peter 1:3 days it all, “God has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness.”

      Well done sis.

  • Ukemeobong Michael

    Administrator
    November 1, 2021 at 6:33 am

    Thank you@phil4krist for this enlightening discussion.

    I see the Christian earthly journey as a process of training in divine nature where we are daily taught by the Holy Spirit about our true selves – not what we think or have been told by people. The world says no man is perfect but Jesus says, be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect. As mentioned, we must be careful not to let other people’s experiences define the veracity of the word of God. For instance, Just because a great man of God suffers sickness does not make divine health a lie. It is our job to prove God’s word for ourselves. When we wholly acknowledge and accept that God’s word is infallible and live that way, then we begin to experience new heights of spiritual attainment that people thought was impossible.

    Personally I don’t just want to preach but I regularly question my convictions so I can be sure I really believe what I preach, else it just becomes religious rites without any power. One might experience sickness/ frustrations/challenges but that does not make the word of God a lie; Just as a thief breaking into someone’s house does not make the owner of the house lose ownership of the house, rather he/she defends it from the thief. So we ought to hold fast to God’s word in adversity and the inherent power in that Word becomes our surety/guarantee for victory because faith is the victory that overcomes the world and its systems. Hallelujah!

  • Philip

    Administrator
    November 2, 2021 at 6:25 am

    Yes @michael, the last point you made about defending our thoughts and not let anyone cheapen the authority and veracity of God’s word reminds me of Adam in the garden. God told him to tend the garden. The word TEND actually means to guard. So, in essence, God was telling him to guard himself including his theology. Paul warns Timothy to hold fast to the doctrine which he (Paul) delivered to him.

    We definitely should seek to prove God personally in our lives and not make other people’s experiences negate the truth of God’s word in our lives.

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